Pastor Steve Greene

Podcast Episode: A Conversation with Pastor Steve Greene on Lent, Black History, and Black Lives Matter

Before The Blue-Eyed Devil was a podcast, it was a rupture. A line drawn.

In January 2021, Bishop Todd Townshend hired me to coach Father Steve Greene—one of the only Black priests in the Diocese of Huron.
My assignment? Help him navigate a White church.

What they wanted was strategy.
And for me to cool down the Big Man.

What they got… was this.

A live conversation—recorded during Lent, on the final day of Black History Month—where we didn’t tiptoe around race, power, and God.
We cracked it open.
We brought receipts.
We named names: Moses the Black. Angela James. Colin Kaepernick.
And Jesus—flipping tables in white robes they tailored for him.

We talked about raising biracial kids beneath a colonized cross.
About worshipping a whitewashed God while your skin is not safe.
About what it costs to believe in belonging when the institution is betting on your silence.

Steve showed up with his theology.
I showed up with the whole damn story.

This episode was never content.
It was confrontation.

This was the spawning—the moment that birthed The Blue-Eyed Devil.

🎧 Listen to the conversation the Church couldn’t script.

David Ian Giffen